The symptom my @layouts = map { $_, $pub->{$_}->{'name'} } sort { $pub->{$a}->{'name'} cmp $pub->{$b}->{'name'} } grep { /^\d+$/ && $pub->{$_}->{'type'} eq "layout" && LJ::S2::can_use_layer($u, $pub->{$_}->{'uniq'}) } keys %$pub; The first layout in the list (called "Generator") was not showing up in the web form. But debug prints before this code showed it *was* in the list and LJ::S2::can_use_layer allowed *all* users to see it This can drive a programmer insane